haha i made the 100th post on this thread! :D

 

Yeah! That's about the only thing in this list that I can't add myself. A 6 speed!

 

if you want more psace/HP/all wheel drive move up to a Subaru TS wagon @ 17k
better yet buy a used WRX and your set, fast and AWD.

sunroof and cruise can be had for about $1300 for both, aftermarket

this is a $14,400 car w/CD and A/C standard! c'mon people. kick those seats down and you can haul. htrow a rack on and you can haul more.

I came form a highly modded WRX (285HP @ the wheels), which had more space, was faster
and cost me about $150 more a month, about $650 more a year car ins and got about 22 MPG on a good day. not to mention the $4k in mods to get it to that point.

you can have it all, you just gotta drop for it!!

:D

 

if you want more psace/HP/all wheel drive move up to a Subaru TS wagon @ 17k
better yet buy a used WRX and your set, fast and AWD.

sunroof and cruise can be had for about $1300 for both, aftermarket

this is a $14,400 car w/CD and A/C standard! c'mon people. kick those seats down and you can haul. htrow a rack on and you can haul more.

I came form a highly modded WRX (285HP @ the wheels), which had more space, was faster
and cost me about $150 more a month, about $650 more a year car ins and got about 22 MPG on a good day. not to mention the $4k in mods to get it to that point.

you can have it all, you just gotta drop for it!!

:D

 

i can't fit anything in back, i've got a giant sub box :twisted:

 

I have been looking at the TC and the XB. I am going to buy, (or not, depending on you) this weekend.

I am heavily leaning toward the XB for the following:

I have an 03 Tundra right now, and the 350 mile commute per week is a lot. (XB will save me about $15 per week).

I need the 4 seats in the XB. And the easy in and out.

I think it will be great for short trips with the wife and 2 kids.

I understand the biggest gripes are the cargo space and no armrest, but how about quality? Can I expect the same Toyota Quality? Would you all buy this again? I am looking at a bone stock automatic, is this the right way to go? Are there any items I should add on at time of purchase?

Please reply quickly!

Thanks!

 

The shifter, fonky hubcaps, and no armrest.

 

do you think scion has learned from any of this yet 05 still dont have anything fixed
hello scion are you home i bet some guy in marketing f__ed up if they wanted a car for the generation x they would have at least sold a bigger hamster under the hood as an optional motor or come out with a type r version special order all big car manufacturers sale a race version of something they make

 

You guys who say not enough head, cargo room must be claustrophobic.

Im 6'2" and I dont feel like im sitting in an engine crate. After a month of driving it nonstop I got into my moms explorer for the weekend and felt like I was trapped in a clam shell, I had to get back into my box just to breathe.

And when I pack 5 people in there theres no complaints except when the people in the back say WHERES THE FRIKKIN AC? Which I guess is a problem but I cant tell (Feels like a cylindrical igloo up front).

As for cargo room I cant believe how much stuff I can fit in there. Im in a band and I take it out to gigs all the time. The list of stuff I pack in there is as follows.

5 guitar cases,1 keyboard case, 2 pedalboards, 3 amp heads, stands, racks, electronic drums, and anything else I can squeeze in.

I do hate the stupid vanity mirror thing, I get laughed at alot because of that.

But I think my biggest complaint is those two stupid cupholders in the front, I get a 20oz coffee everyday and almost everyday I spill it all over my shifter (GRRRR!!). I think they need to make it as deep as the one in back.

But beyond that nothing too serious.

The first thing people usually say when they get in my car is WOW IT'S LIKE A MOVIE THEATER IN HERE!

 

No Porsche Red.

 

I've only had my xB for 3 weeks. Its a good getting from point A to B, the mileage is great. I can only hope that because Toyota made this, it'd have reliability. Quality? You get what you pay for. As the kids get older, they'll appreciate getting out of their own door.

 

What? Not enough elbow room???

How big are you guys? I'm pushing 300 lbs (yeah, shame on me) and I took my first test drive with a salesman who's at least 350 and the xB felt as roomy as a Winnibago. Maybe it's because I've been driving a regular cab S-10 for years.

As far as power goes, sure, too much is never enough, but you knew it had a tiny motor when you bought it. Did you expect the power elves to work magic on it while you slept?

Given that, in my driving around town, I'm still usually half way down the block before the rest of traffic manages to cross the intersection. I'm still passing slow drivers. In fact, I'm often surprised how fast I'm going when I bother to look at the speedo.

I once scoffed at the idea of small engines with automatics, In fact, this is my first automatic since 1971. But modern automatic trannies are so good these days. This thing is just mash the pedal and go. I suspect you notice the lack of power more when you have to do all the shifting yourself.

No, I'm not going to win any drag races (unless the other guy doesn't know we're racing), but in everyday driving it more than gets out of its own way.

 

My girlfriend says that the visor mirror needs a light!

 

Turning circle too big, tilt steering wheel doesnt come down far enough, and TORQUE /HP.

 

So far only thing I dont like about the XB is the rattle nosie i hear from the front dash. I have an apointement to get it checked out. I doubt they can do anything. Oh also needs more interior dome lights. Everything else is fine such as HP it isnt slow as it sounds because you get the good gas mileage.

 

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With all the complaining on this thread----it shocks me that there aren't more xB's on the used car market----I don't see them listed in the Auto Trader, in the newspapers, or on the Toyota lots--------ya, once in a while a stray one here or there-----but they remain very scarce. Why is that???

 

xB weakness: Easily scratched / chipped paint job and thin (easily dented) sheet metal.
Gotta start saving for a new paint job in a few years.

Too bad the body panels aren’t made of plastic like a Saturn.
Then you would have a super durable and reliable econo-car.
Maybe someone can make aftermarket body panels like the carbon fiber font fenders and hood i've seen elsewhere.
Any ideas on how to do this?

 

whats wrong with the xb?

a gutless motor that cannot be easily upgraded.

wrong wheel drive.

 

i didnt expect to go to a car lot of any type and buy a car with 17 miles on it for 14k and 20,000 miles later be blue booked for 2k more than i paid for it, nor did i expect the thing to be flawless.

When i find something about it that i dont like or doesnt suit me, i change it, heck its my car isnt it? The lock ***** hit my funnybone, so i lowered them, the steering was too slack, so i upgraded bushings, it needed an armrest, so i bought the best one on the market, the shift pattern was too wide, so i bought a short throw shifter and modded it even more, i could go on and on for hours like this, point is i i feel like i got what i paid for and i made it into mine, exactly how i felt it needed to be, and still have managed to win over 1k worth of prizes and throphies with it?

If i were to wreck my xb, i would go straight to the dealership and order another 5 speed with no options and start over again, hopefully with parts from this one, but i would not consider buying anything else that is on the US market as of now