Whats the XB's biggest flaw??
#143
Well there are certainly things that could be better with every car but i would say the biggest thing with me was the cruise control. I put the Rostra kit in mine and it works fine but it would have been nice if i didnt have to splice and molest my brand new car to get cruise. The armrest is nice to have now but it wasnt a huge deal. For all you out there that complained about that, i just installed the factory armrest kit today at lunch. took about 5 mins and seems to be a cool little unit. Part# PTS3252050, cost was $79. You can order scion parts from any toyota dealer just incase some of you didnt know.
#145
we all know it's all about economy and to fill speciic price point, but I wouldn't have minded to pay a little bit more for an Xb engineered with the tC engine. They could have given the tC a 200 hp engine and stuffed the box with the 160 one. That would have been perfect. But it probably would have upped the price a bit.
#147
Originally Posted by bBTOY
Yeah , the Paint is THIN and shows SWIRLS ( at least with dark colors ) You MUST WAX
And NOW that I think of it ..... The Rear Bumper STICKER !?!?!?!? All that is good for is WAX Sticking to it .
Who EVER came up with that THING , needs to be
ANY OTHER Car Co. WHO HAS a VEH that NEEDS a Rear BUMPER GUARD , ACTUALLY HAS IT , A THICKER RUBBER GUARD !!! NOT A STICKER !!![/
Does ANYONE know of SOME OTHER CARS *REAL* BUMPER GUARD that would FIT ????
I havent seen lately , But there is a cigarette lighter MAP LIGHT . That would be Helpful ( Always back to MORE LIGHTAGE ! )
I hope in the future there will be a REAR VIEW with a LIGHT that we can add
AND AFTER ALL THAT , ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS .......... I LOVE MY BOX !!!!!!
And NOW that I think of it ..... The Rear Bumper STICKER !?!?!?!? All that is good for is WAX Sticking to it .
Who EVER came up with that THING , needs to be
ANY OTHER Car Co. WHO HAS a VEH that NEEDS a Rear BUMPER GUARD , ACTUALLY HAS IT , A THICKER RUBBER GUARD !!! NOT A STICKER !!![/
Does ANYONE know of SOME OTHER CARS *REAL* BUMPER GUARD that would FIT ????
I havent seen lately , But there is a cigarette lighter MAP LIGHT . That would be Helpful ( Always back to MORE LIGHTAGE ! )
I hope in the future there will be a REAR VIEW with a LIGHT that we can add
AND AFTER ALL THAT , ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS .......... I LOVE MY BOX !!!!!!
#148
It needs a 6th gear.
If they made a 7-passenger version I'd buy it in a second:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...highlight=limo
If they made a 7-passenger version I'd buy it in a second:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...highlight=limo
#149
The ECU being too smart which is why I have to spend extra bucks getting a greddy emanage as opposed to my apexi safc2...but the only real surefire way to prevent the ECU from messing with my fuel settings is to get a stand alone ecu which is like $3000 installed!
#150
1100 miles here
My complaints:
1) Windshield wiper timings, both front and rear. Make the rear like the front with on/interval/off, and the front with at least 3 different speeds, esepcially a very slow one for when I'm getting misted by wet roads.
2) Armrest: I'm iffy about getting the factory armrest as I beleive it's not gonna be useful and not having one is a pain. Plus the rest on the door is too low so I have to set my elbow up on the window frame.. gets a might uncomfortable on long voyages.
3) 'Engine Cold' light. I swear, every time I start the thing I think I have my highbeams on. The two indicators are different shades of blue, but not enough for me to not check to make sure I'm not blinding anyone with my highs.
And now for my 'Only me' problems
1) Door base corner: Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but the size of the door has actually caused me to gouge the base of my left leg three times now due to how I get out of the box and shut the door. I think I've manged to adjust my habits to compensate, but I fear I may lapse when I start wearing shorts and not jeans
2) Rear hatch: It comes up just an inch below the top of my head! Darn it!
3) Numb leg: My anatomy caused my right leg to lean out into the center console area up against the auto shifter, leading to a strange numbness in my leg that's still present mildly. Some foam, a hot glue gun, duct tape, and part of an old mud flap created a knee rest which is quite comfortable now.
And, uhm.. that's it! It's got plenty o' power, the stero is great, and it's a wonderful car!
My complaints:
1) Windshield wiper timings, both front and rear. Make the rear like the front with on/interval/off, and the front with at least 3 different speeds, esepcially a very slow one for when I'm getting misted by wet roads.
2) Armrest: I'm iffy about getting the factory armrest as I beleive it's not gonna be useful and not having one is a pain. Plus the rest on the door is too low so I have to set my elbow up on the window frame.. gets a might uncomfortable on long voyages.
3) 'Engine Cold' light. I swear, every time I start the thing I think I have my highbeams on. The two indicators are different shades of blue, but not enough for me to not check to make sure I'm not blinding anyone with my highs.
And now for my 'Only me' problems
1) Door base corner: Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but the size of the door has actually caused me to gouge the base of my left leg three times now due to how I get out of the box and shut the door. I think I've manged to adjust my habits to compensate, but I fear I may lapse when I start wearing shorts and not jeans
2) Rear hatch: It comes up just an inch below the top of my head! Darn it!
3) Numb leg: My anatomy caused my right leg to lean out into the center console area up against the auto shifter, leading to a strange numbness in my leg that's still present mildly. Some foam, a hot glue gun, duct tape, and part of an old mud flap created a knee rest which is quite comfortable now.
And, uhm.. that's it! It's got plenty o' power, the stero is great, and it's a wonderful car!
#152
Originally Posted by akxb
I've got an '06 xb so I've got "the ****" that everyone so desperately wants. Let me tell you, it's over rated. It is so shalow and stiff to turn that you end up pushing it as you try to turn up the volume which puts you in sound options mode so you then turn up your bass instead and so then you have to cycle through the options to get get to volume. bass no, treble no, fade, balacne asl mode no, volume no, DOH I missed it back again. LOL
I've only owned my xB for 1 week. I bought it as an economical alternative to my other cars, so the power is no issue. Who cares how much power you have sitting in traffic for 3 hours a day?! But some of my gripes are:
- above mentioned volume ****
- steering wheel seems to sit a little off-center versus the seat, bt maybe it's just me
- instrument cluster should be directly in front of me, I'm the driver. Why do my passengers need to know the RPM and speed?
- instrument cluster is bright white where the other lights are orange. I know I can change these with a little effort, but they should match. Maybe this was so I know where the cluster is since it's in front of me (see above)
- I wish the seat was tilted back a little
- lack of lighting. I'll have to put in some map lights and a front dome light
- pitiful vanity mirrors, again with no lights (this one's for my wife)
- no armrest. I installed the Boomerang one. It's better than nothing, but it's not quite tall or long enough, and it's not adjustable.
I knew about most of this stuff before buying it, so no shockers. Again, it's my daily driver and I wasn't too concerned with the small details.
#153
A few of the things that bugs me include:
-Cheap plastic interior (already a little dinged up from my bass guitar case, bass amp and cab)
-powered seats that can move in every direction... ok ok I know, its not a luxury car.
-it could use a little more power, im just an average driver but its nice to try a powerful car
-horrible stereo ****. I plug my ipod in using the AUX, so I usually liek to turn the audio down rather than mute. When I turn it down (or up) i usually end up pressing it because its not really "grippable"
-the thin paint sucks. someone mustve been messing around by my car and their backpack mustve left a scratch
-Cheap plastic interior (already a little dinged up from my bass guitar case, bass amp and cab)
-powered seats that can move in every direction... ok ok I know, its not a luxury car.
-it could use a little more power, im just an average driver but its nice to try a powerful car
-horrible stereo ****. I plug my ipod in using the AUX, so I usually liek to turn the audio down rather than mute. When I turn it down (or up) i usually end up pressing it because its not really "grippable"
-the thin paint sucks. someone mustve been messing around by my car and their backpack mustve left a scratch
#155
First and foremost, the xB is an excellent value and any complaints are minor all things considered. The two things that I notice the most are that the seating/steering wheel positions aren't that great. Given the demographic of this car, it would make sense to at allow more you to adjust seat height and tilt, i.e. so you don't have to sit like you're driving a bus. Also, the windshield seems to fog up at the drop of a hat. Considering the competition, the xB is a rockstar.
#157
Originally Posted by TEASER
Only Flaw The Xb Has Is The Driver............................>
What it is is a great deal for what you get. Price vs. functionality, you can not beat it.
I feel that people who complain about every little thing wrong with the xB - then hold it against the xB - have too much time on their hands and love complaining. reminds me of the people in my apartment building...
#158
not sure how many times this flaw was brough tup... but i hate waking up and it is a beautiful sunny morning, but it rained last night.... and the rain on the top of the roof takes FOREVER to fall off, and when it does, and your window happens to be open, bam straight onto the window / door lock electronics.... they needed a bigger channel to divert the water over the windshield possibly...
and about 3 inches wider. to push the front passenger seat over a little. i hate when my dad sits in the front seat and i have to shift into fifth, and his thigh is in the way.... same problem with anybody sitting in the front seat... the upside... cute girl... i tend to shift into fifth alot, or just rest my hand there when i am driving can't really think of any other problems that i have.
and about 3 inches wider. to push the front passenger seat over a little. i hate when my dad sits in the front seat and i have to shift into fifth, and his thigh is in the way.... same problem with anybody sitting in the front seat... the upside... cute girl... i tend to shift into fifth alot, or just rest my hand there when i am driving can't really think of any other problems that i have.
#159
You all know that We are all spoiled with all of our modern conveniences in our cars...my biggest complaint is that I didn't test drive my xB sooner, there isn't any other automaker who has as unique a vehicle with all the features mine has for less than $19,000. For the minor details I'm not happy with..aftermarket parts and accessories is my choice. I think that is the point of the xB to start with. Economy, safe to drive , inexpensive, Quirky and FUN. If we start changing too many things like seat positions, instrument panel guages/ locations, engines, etc. you might as well go buy a Chevy or Ford and be like everyone else.