1)Engine temp lights
2)interior light
3)Couldn't test drive one, had to buy on looks alone...which is kinda why I bought it originally

 

I have a temporary fix for the **** issue, I used a 3/4" bypass plug to press over the ****. A bypass plug is basically a large vacuum plug. It looks stupid but until I find a better solution......

 

horsepower and a six speed but I'll live because it gets 15mpg more then my truck.

 

I think the car is GREAT for the price. I really dont have a complaint about anything except TWO things and they are.......
1) the vanity mirror velcro thingy......it NEVER sticks
2) maybe two little lights under the rearview mirror

other than that, for the price, everything is good on the car. i actually really like the dash because its not something that needs armor all and is gonna crack BECAUSE of using armor all years down the road. I think it has TONS of room, no matter how far you move the front seat back, no one complains about their legs being squished, and besides all that good stuff....remember they all come STOCK with power windows and door locks.

 

If the tailgate would open a few inches higher I wouldn't have these knots on my head.

That being said, I've finally (I think) learned to duck.

Also, it would be nice if the front seats had a few inches more rearward travel.

Of course, these aren't problems for shorter folks.

 

window visors. wade's are delicious to me.

 

Cheap paint, and lack of interior lights.

 

Armrest, cruise control, maybe another dome light, and a little more cargo space, and an auxilary outlet or two.

 

Also I don't like the way the door panels mark up so easily. Granted they come clean but you can draw on them with just your finger.

 

The only things I would modify: add a sliding extender to the sunvisor, for use on the side window; add maplights in front (the ones you can click on and off independently), and some lights in the cargo area.

Other than that, my box rocks!

 

- varying treatment on service from dealer to dealer, where some ignore the Scion warranty
- outer paint is equal to wearing a wind breaker
- very cheap interior materials
- thin layer of clear coat on paint
- options ala sun roof, etc. non-existant

 

One question, and one complaint.

Why is there a low temp light? Obviously the engine is cold when you first start it. The fix is to keep driving!

My complaint is about the iPod stereo. The navigation of the menus is a lot more difficult than on the iPod itself. Firstly, pressing menu always brings you back to the opening menu as opposed to just going up one level (for instance, if you want to pick a different song on the same albumn, you still have to go menu-artist-albumn-song instead of just menu-song like on the iPod). There's no pause button, so when I mute for a phone call I miss a couple of songs. The selector wheels are a little too touchy for my taste, and sometimes it takes me several tries to get the actual selection I want. It would be nice to have more than one thing on the screen at one time to make it easier to select things. Lastly, it would be nice to have the song information scroll across the screen instead of having to push "text" a bunch of times.

Really though, other than the stereo I love my box.

 

I can live with the underpower,small area behind the rear seat,wimpy glass tempering,thin paint,K-Mart wheel covers,dash and so on.
.BUT..just got scion floor mats(had to order and ship to me) and the damn things DO NOT FIT!
heading to the dealer now grrrrrr

 

I just traded in my tundra for a tC ( mainly for fuel economy) and while their my wife fell in love with the xB, Not for the ugly box shape, not for the wimpy echo motor, but for the fact that you sit up like you are in a truck and still get hella MPG. I can find more than one thing wrong with it, but what it has right, for my wife atleast is the front seat.

 

Nothing major for me...
The interior lighting,
Having to put aftermarket cruise on.
Matt

 

I quoted myself. This is really my only issue and I still haven't found a good solution. I think I will have to put some kind of tint but don't really want to do that.

 

There have been a few complaints about the seats, wondering if anyone here has owned or driven a mini? Those are the coolest friggin seats i've ever seen in a low end car. The ratcheting height adjustment was awesome.

As for the NUMEROUS hp complaints, my 85 and my 90 4runner both had less hp, more low end torgue, but are a lot heavier. My 97 4runner with the 4cyl engine only has 150. 100+ hp for a car as light as our xb's is really quite good, how much did the original bug or civic have? The whole hp escalation war has gotten way out of hand. When I first started paying attention to cars in the mid eighties anthying that could do 0-60 in less than 8 seconds was considered really fast. SUV's and pickups are faster than that now, it's nuts.

My complaints about our xb are a dash rattle that i hope to chase down, and the, uh... well... hmmm.

I guess I think this is a really awesome vehicle for the price. I expected it to be a tin can for the price, and was kind of surprised how much my wife and I liked it. Honestly, this is plenty of car for about 2/3rds of the population - it's really flexible and does a lot of things quite well. Kind of a MUV - Micro Utility Vehicle.

 

I can't believe I read the whole thing!

I must be off the deep end about this car.

The stroller gripe? It's not the car, it's the stroller! Get one of these, they fold up to not much bigger than an umbrella-

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p311427...ver?sourceid=3

Even the cheapest is pretty durable- used one for two boys, passed it on to a friend for their infant...

Need more cargo capacity? Yakima!-

http://scionpartspeople.com/SearchPr...kima+Roof+Rack

With about a zillion attachments available, including one clamshell gizmo that has the cargo capacity of a doublewide coffin... great just the way it is for a few sheets of plywood or sheetrock, 2x4's, pipe, whatever... I was surprised at just how stout the thing really is. Definitely heavy-duty.

The sunvisor thing? pretty common, and easy enough to remedy with a variety of hardware...

Short gearing? probably more of an issue in flat country, but a six speed would be optimal... here in Colorado, the short gearing is actually an advantage up in the hills, giving more useable gear ranges. Heading west out of Denver, most econobox fifth gears are a pipedream, anyway, and even fourth is of limited utility... Like most small performance motors, it'll run well if you keep it up on the power curve, and the 10.5:1 compression ration dictates at least 87 octane fuel while ruling out practical turbos and superchargers... the computer sets back the timing terribly with 85 octane gas, causing performance to suffer...

My biggest gripe is the seat/ pedals/ steering wheel ergonomics, which is common among taller drivers- give me 2" more of rearward seat travel and a telescoping wheel, and I'd be a very happy camper. Yeh, I can work with the seat, but it won't do any good if the wheel won't follow along, and I haven't figured out that part...

Better soundproofing would be a big plus, and not expensive at all to achieve... I recently discovered that the stock Goodyears on my '06 are noisy as hell on some pavement surfaces- a particularly lousy choice given the soundproofing issue...

It's easily the most practical and distinctive ride in the pricerange, so I'll deal with the flaws to have the advantages...

 

I didn't read all the way through this thread, but what about the low ground clearance of the body? Our local roads have so many dips, holes, speed bumps, etc. that I'm driving scared half the time of breaking off parts of the body! I know some of it is for looks, but is it functional at all?
I also am having a hard time getting used to reading the mph on the speedo, especially when speed limit is 35/45/65 etc.

 

trunk space!!!!!!!!!!!!!