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Old 04-19-2009 | 08:40 AM
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I want to know what a lot of forum users are switching to 4300 instead of sticking to a more blue color, provided you are trying to achieve the effect on Audi, BMW, etc. (I know that they use 4300 bulbs and the housing is tinted to allow a blue light.

But anyway, I'm thinking about getting a Mobile HID kit and I'm probably leaning towards the safer j5000 temp because it should have sufficient lumen output, will not be as warm white as a 4300, and not too blue to attract attention from cops.

So should I go with a 5000 H11 kit?
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I want to know what a lot of forum users are switching to 4300 instead of sticking to a more blue color, provided you are trying to achieve the effect on Audi, BMW, etc. (I know that they use 4300 bulbs and the housing is tinted to allow a blue light.

But anyway, I'm thinking about getting a Mobile HID kit and I'm probably leaning towards the safer j5000 temp because it should have sufficient lumen output, will not be as warm white as a 4300, and not too blue to attract attention from cops.

So should I go with a 5000 H11 kit?
Oh that hurts, asking me for tech questions and purchase from another supplier. Just kidding bro, you have the right to choose whose product to purchase.
From my personal experience and customer feedbacks 6000K, 8000K are upon the most popular colors. I have to admit we sell a lot of blue color HIDs as well but that's just taking the risk to attract attention with the cops.
5000K and 6000K are both white color the only difference is do you want yellow tint (which is 5000K) or blue tint (6000K).
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lol

Well the reason why I was leaning towards it is because a lot of forum users recommend it, but you and I are already talking about this subject in the HID Legality thread I started a while back.

I definitely want blue tint, so I guess I should lean towards your 6000k temp kit. How much are bulbs for it, too, and how long do they usually last? Because I'm thinking I should buy backup bulbs in case mine go out one day. But I don't want it sitting around collecting dust, you know.
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Well the reason why I was leaning towards it is because a lot of forum users recommend it, but you and I are already talking about this subject in the HID Legality thread I started a while back.

I definitely want blue tint, so I guess I should lean towards your 6000k temp kit. How much are bulbs for it, too, and how long do they usually last? Because I'm thinking I should buy backup bulbs in case mine go out one day. But I don't want it sitting around collecting dust, you know.
We offer 2 year warranty for our HID kits. HID bulbs normally lasts well over 2 years this will depend on how often and how well you take care of it. If you consistently turn it on and off it will shorten the life.
A pair of HID bulbs (single beam) is $21 shipped. The replacement bulbs also has 2 year warranty.
Old 04-22-2009 | 09:32 PM
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Is there any reason why the price is so much drastically reduced compared to Mobile HID? I heard that their ballasts (at least from the same manufacturer, anyway) are used in Lexus, BMW, Audi, etc.

I'm almost sold on it I tell you.
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Is there any reason why the price is so much drastically reduced compared to Mobile HID? I heard that their ballasts (at least from the same manufacturer, anyway) are used in Lexus, BMW, Audi, etc.

I'm almost sold on it I tell you.
We have our factory and manufacture our HID kits. The reason for the price cost difference is because the kits we sell are pure OEM (no brands). This does not mean it's any different compared to others. We are also providing HID kits to other companies that brand the HID kits. Branded HID kits will run you from low $100~$300.
Because the HID kits we sell here has no brand involved in return it's a huge discount to you as the end user. Unless you are seeking for re-sale then that'll be a different story.

It is possible for Mobile HID to provide HIDs to these known car manufacturers but very much doubt provided the full line of HIDs. Majority of the factory HID is still being supplied by OSRAM. They are based in Germany.
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For you light maniacs out there. I'm here to help, answer, trouble shoot and even sell you our HID conversion kits.
Regardless if you've purchase our HID kits, I'll still answer the questions and trouble your are having as long as it's related to HID.

I also have a post in the classified section. Link listed below.
I have a question. The reverse light on our XB's is a single pitiful 21w 7440. I've figured out how to modify the reverse light housing to use a 35W H8 halogen with the 22ga oem wiring. Can you tell me what the maximum peak current draw is for your HID kit? Once lit, I think that the 35w HID current draw would be fine but I need to know the peak current draw needed for HID ignition and if a short run of 22ga stranded cu wire can handle it. TIA.
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Originally Posted by pyroman131
I want to know what a lot of forum users are switching to 4300 instead of sticking to a more blue color, provided you are trying to achieve the effect on Audi, BMW, etc. (I know that they use 4300 bulbs and the housing is tinted to allow a blue light.

But anyway, I'm thinking about getting a Mobile HID kit and I'm probably leaning towards the safer j5000 temp because it should have sufficient lumen output, will not be as warm white as a 4300, and not too blue to attract attention from cops.

So should I go with a 5000 H11 kit?
The light that is being scattered by the edge of the HID projector housing (the cutoff area) breaks up the colors like a prism and causes the blue/purple flickers you see from most luxury cars.
You only see it briefly as the car tips, sways, and bounces.
Its the projector housing that causes it.
You won't see reflector HID equipped cars such as the IS300 have the same blue/purple flicker.
Even some halogen projectors have that effect...if you look at the new Camrys coming towards you from a distance, you can see blue/purple flickers as it tips, sways, and bounces.
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Originally Posted by pyroman131
I want to know what a lot of forum users are switching to 4300 instead of sticking to a more blue color, provided you are trying to achieve the effect on Audi, BMW, etc. (I know that they use 4300 bulbs and the housing is tinted to allow a blue light.

But anyway, I'm thinking about getting a Mobile HID kit and I'm probably leaning towards the safer j5000 temp because it should have sufficient lumen output, will not be as warm white as a 4300, and not too blue to attract attention from cops.

So should I go with a 5000 H11 kit?
The light that is being scattered by the edge of the HID projector housing (the cutoff area) breaks up the colors like a prism and causes the blue/purple flickers you see from most luxury cars.
You only see it briefly as the car tips, sways, and bounces.
Its the projector housing that causes it.
You won't see reflector HID equipped cars such as the IS300 have the same blue/purple flicker.
Even some halogen projectors have that effect...if you look at the new Camrys coming towards you from a distance, you can see blue/purple flickers as it tips, sways, and bounces.
Tis tru.

The effect people usually want is not made by the changing of the color of the HID bulb, but by introducing a variance in either A) cutoff shield design or B) orientation/pitch of cutoff shield with respect to HID bulb, this causes a refraction of the light source and you can get color bands on your actual cutoff line when projected on a wall or onto someone's eyes. This is the flicker effect.

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http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/s...dual_retro.htm

very detailed info regarding that.
Old 05-14-2009 | 10:24 PM
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That is correct. After researching HID technology for a bit, I learned that, in the case of OEM, the light housing is made specifically to situate that effect and change the output of the light slightly at certain angles to appear blue. And that's for OEM.

For us who want to introduce aftermarket HID in light housings that are halogen projectors, it is a different story. It is why many customers elect higher temperature xenon lights that output in different colors so as to achieve that effect.

When I purchase my kit, I will select a higher temperature to achieve a partial blue, but not too blue.

You can definitely see the difference between an aftermarket output and an OEM output. The OEM is cleaner, much much cleaner.
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Ok, only thing that keeps me from buying is honestly, the low prices! I know sounds dumb but man, you're like WAY cheaper then anyone else, makes me think there's something not included or some other reason. Just seems too good to be true and I've always followed the "You get what you pay for" motto. So, are these prices real? Am I really getting the same stuff in your kit that I would in the kit from MobileHID? Your H13 (900 kit is almost $300 cheaper then theirs!!! What gives?
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Ok, only thing that keeps me from buying is honestly, the low prices! I know sounds dumb but man, you're like WAY cheaper then anyone else, makes me think there's something not included or some other reason. Just seems too good to be true and I've always followed the "You get what you pay for" motto. So, are these prices real? Am I really getting the same stuff in your kit that I would in the kit from MobileHID? Your H13 (900 kit is almost $300 cheaper then theirs!!! What gives?
As mentioned in my classified thread. We are the direct source. I say this because we manufacturer our own HID (raw to final product). Currently over 90% of the HID on the market are manufacturer in China and most of the HID sold here in the States are outsourced. Even the OEM HID (HID installed in BMW, Mazda, etc) are outsourced to China factories and then shipped to Germany plants to slap on their brand labels before shipping to Car manufacturer assembly plant.

I'm not saying MobileHID has a lower grade, but you do the math we don't brand our HID and MobileHID does. Advertising adds up the selling cost. If you want I can package my product as MobileHID does and slap on a brand label and now my HID kits will cost in the $150~300 range. We have always done wholesale distribution business. I can even name the major HID supplier in the USA. But I won't go there due to that information can't be shared (confidential).

Yes, quality does make a difference. I have seen too many faulty made HID kits and it's those faulty made HID kit is giving the rest of the proper made HID a bad name.

HID market is not as the same as 5 years ago. Where back then we can make at least 3~5 times the profit as now. Nowadays, there are just simply too much competition and in order to survive we have to suffer our profit margins.
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Well dude, you talked me into it! I just ordered a Bi-Xenon kit and a harness for my bosses Ford F-150. When it comes in and we get it installed I'll send you some pics! Thanks for the hookup!!
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Originally Posted by HIDXTRA
5000K and 6000K are both white color the only difference is do you want yellow tint (which is 5000K) or blue tint (6000K).
I don't mean to contridict, but that is not correct. I have 5000K HIDs and they are a white, with a hint of blue, and 6000K are the same but with more blue. The only ones that have yellow are 3000K (more ment for foglights) and 4300K has a hint of yellow while its mostly white.

Just wanted to clear that up.
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Well dude, you talked me into it! I just ordered a Bi-Xenon kit and a harness for my bosses Ford F-150. When it comes in and we get it installed I'll send you some pics! Thanks for the hookup!!
I believe we spoke over the phone. Did you receive my email regarding the polarity setting you'll need to do for the F150.
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I believe we spoke over the phone. Did you receive my email regarding the polarity setting you'll need to do for the F150.
I got the kit in the mail today (Wow, fast shipping!) but no, I haven't gotten an email from you. I'll PM you and make sure you have my correct email address. And dude, thanks for all the help, YOU GUYS ROCK!!! I'll spread the word on Scikotics.
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Hey, quick question. Before I ordered your kit I got a kit from another guy for a higher price (wish I would have found y'all earlier!). His kit didn't include a relay harness, just the ballasts and bulbs. Now, I was told all I had to do was hook it up and it would run fine off of the vehicle's lighting power because its a "digital ballast" anyway long story short, it don't work. Any ideas? And yes I have experience installing HID's but never installed one without a harness, relay, fuse, etc...
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Originally Posted by c0ld
Hey, quick question. Before I ordered your kit I got a kit from another guy for a higher price (wish I would have found y'all earlier!). His kit didn't include a relay harness, just the ballasts and bulbs. Now, I was told all I had to do was hook it up and it would run fine off of the vehicle's lighting power because its a "digital ballast" anyway long story short, it don't work. Any ideas? And yes I have experience installing HID's but never installed one without a harness, relay, fuse, etc...
All our Bi-Xenons comes with Relay. What was the other HID kit you brought? If it's a single beam and depending on what type of car it's installed in most of the time no relay is required.
Cars that are over 15 year old would suggest to use a relay. Due to the electrical wires would wear out over time.
If your other HID kit is a Bi-Xenon then I'm 90% sure it will require a relay.
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It was a 9007 kit, single beam, car is a 2000 Ford Winstar van, hooked it up and nothing. I'm gonna order another Bi-Xenon kit from you tonight for it and just put the other kit in the closet I suppose, unless someone wants to buy it...


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