How a turbo maintains boost in an auto
#41
Originally Posted by Steve60
Fred, you already have the turbo kit? If so, this project should be very interesting. I like it!
The TC SC adds 42 to about 48bhp. If Toyota can add this as an option for an auto ( the drivetrain deal is shortened to 12K ) you'd think the turbo would work fine at somewhere south of 230bhp.
The 1 thing I don't like is how lazy the shift is. I'm thinking valve body but it could be the electronics.
The TC SC adds 42 to about 48bhp. If Toyota can add this as an option for an auto ( the drivetrain deal is shortened to 12K ) you'd think the turbo would work fine at somewhere south of 230bhp.
The 1 thing I don't like is how lazy the shift is. I'm thinking valve body but it could be the electronics.
As for the AT, I believe it can handle south of 230bhp if you don't abuse it and I'm willing to risk it. I've heard that even with a shift kit the ECU still keeps the lazy shift. I'll probably add a tranny cooler to be safe.
#42
Originally Posted by ScionFred
Originally Posted by Steve60
Fred, you already have the turbo kit? If so, this project should be very interesting. I like it!
The TC SC adds 42 to about 48bhp. If Toyota can add this as an option for an auto ( the drivetrain deal is shortened to 12K ) you'd think the turbo would work fine at somewhere south of 230bhp.
The 1 thing I don't like is how lazy the shift is. I'm thinking valve body but it could be the electronics.
The TC SC adds 42 to about 48bhp. If Toyota can add this as an option for an auto ( the drivetrain deal is shortened to 12K ) you'd think the turbo would work fine at somewhere south of 230bhp.
The 1 thing I don't like is how lazy the shift is. I'm thinking valve body but it could be the electronics.
As for the AT, I believe it can handle south of 230bhp if you don't abuse it and I'm willing to risk it. I've heard that even with a shift kit the ECU still keeps the lazy shift. I'll probably add a tranny cooler to be safe.
440s should work well. The Denso ECU is really pretty good. 20% might be a little much to learn, but I went from 320s to 370s on my 05 blower car & it worked out AF = 11.6 to 1 after a few tanks of fuel ( maybe 3 ). That said, a real tune would be much better since there are more issues than just AF - So, IMHO the TRD tune is not optimal. Still this is all speculation.
There's a shift kit for the XB? Cooler, yes & something as big as you can fit, like something for a T350 in a sedan.
Keep us posted
#43
Originally Posted by Steve60
Hey Fred, get everything together & see what you have first. You'll want to know what the AF is at different ranges & EGT since IT is the end product.
440s should work well. The Denso ECU is really pretty good. 20% might be a little much to learn, but I went from 320s to 370s on my 05 blower car & it worked out AF = 11.6 to 1 after a few tanks of fuel ( maybe 3 ). That said, a real tune would be much better since there are more issues than just AF - So, IMHO the TRD tune is not optimal. Still this is all speculation.
There's a shift kit for the XB? Cooler, yes & something as big as you can fit, like something for a T350 in a sedan.
Keep us posted
440s should work well. The Denso ECU is really pretty good. 20% might be a little much to learn, but I went from 320s to 370s on my 05 blower car & it worked out AF = 11.6 to 1 after a few tanks of fuel ( maybe 3 ). That said, a real tune would be much better since there are more issues than just AF - So, IMHO the TRD tune is not optimal. Still this is all speculation.
There's a shift kit for the XB? Cooler, yes & something as big as you can fit, like something for a T350 in a sedan.
Keep us posted
I just happened across a post in the TC FI section saying that the ECU kind of overrides a modified valve body. OTOH, there are other posts saying that a vavle body helps a lot. Apparently there is no kit available so it was probably an IPT or Level10 valve body.
I haven't read this yet but it looks very interesting.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...anny&&start=20
#45
The link is very interesting.... I need to spend more time reading this site.
A rule of thumb is the injector size should not exceed the size of the engine. 600's would make that number. With the available management, the rule is out the window. The SC tune will pull timing but it may be way off from what your turbo wants. Then add 440s to the mix....... I do not know. I think at 5 -6 #, I'd leave everything as is. Log some data.......
A rule of thumb is the injector size should not exceed the size of the engine. 600's would make that number. With the available management, the rule is out the window. The SC tune will pull timing but it may be way off from what your turbo wants. Then add 440s to the mix....... I do not know. I think at 5 -6 #, I'd leave everything as is. Log some data.......
#46
Originally Posted by FromTheOld
IPT Valve Body Modification = ~600
1 thing I haven't found anyone using is the Weapon manifold.
#48
Originally Posted by Steve60
The link is very interesting.... I need to spend more time reading this site.
A rule of thumb is the injector size should not exceed the size of the engine. 600's would make that number. With the available management, the rule is out the window. The SC tune will pull timing but it may be way off from what your turbo wants. Then add 440s to the mix....... I do not know. I think at 5 -6 #, I'd leave everything as is. Log some data.......
A rule of thumb is the injector size should not exceed the size of the engine. 600's would make that number. With the available management, the rule is out the window. The SC tune will pull timing but it may be way off from what your turbo wants. Then add 440s to the mix....... I do not know. I think at 5 -6 #, I'd leave everything as is. Log some data.......
#49
I'm in the process of getting my xD turbo'd by Todd over at TT and mine is also an AUTO...I believe were gonna run it at 9#'s of boost and were shooting for HP numbers anywhere from 180-200 since it's about 105 to the wheels stock...Todd seems to think my tranny will hold up fine but only time will tell...
Might have to look into getting a tranny cooler myself...
Might have to look into getting a tranny cooler myself...
#50
YELOSUB, for sure. Get a cooler.
BYTW - 200 in an XD = BIG FUN. I have a Cooper "S" with a little over 200, it's a little over 100lbs lighter but won't make the TQ your XD will make.
This is a fun project. Keep us posted.........
BYTW - 200 in an XD = BIG FUN. I have a Cooper "S" with a little over 200, it's a little over 100lbs lighter but won't make the TQ your XD will make.
This is a fun project. Keep us posted.........
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