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Old 04-16-2007 | 09:12 PM
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Any ideas to what kind of gas mileage the new xB is supposed to get?
Old 04-16-2007 | 09:55 PM
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probably simliar to the tC, same engine so it won't be anything revolutionarly
Old 04-16-2007 | 10:26 PM
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Any ideas on when this: will be the biggest button on the site?
Old 04-17-2007 | 03:54 AM
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probabally 22-26 mpg. i would be coo with that.
Old 04-17-2007 | 04:01 AM
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Damn. I got all excited to see this thread. Then I realized it was one of the hundreds already out there regarding the predicted mileage of the new xB. Seriously, every other thread mentions this. I now hate tcmike for wasting my time.
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Originally Posted by Max
Damn. I got all excited to see this thread. Then I realized it was one of the hundreds already out there regarding the predicted mileage of the new xB. Seriously, every other thread mentions this. I now hate tcmike for wasting my time.
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Old 04-17-2007 | 04:29 AM
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I wish this site had the Windows Vista thing when someone wants to create a thread...

1) Are you sure you want to post this?

2) Have you searched for this already?
Old 04-19-2007 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by L4rry_B1rd
I wish this site had the Windows Vista thing when someone wants to create a thread...

1) Are you sure you want to post this?

2) Have you searched for this already?
You wish you had windows?

Bleh on you!
Old 04-19-2007 | 05:08 PM
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Leopard all the way.
Old 04-19-2007 | 06:57 PM
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Because the 2008 EPA Fuel Economy ratings involve quicker acceleration and declerations of vehicles including the new highway rating test with speeds up to 80 mph and and also takes into account of air conditioner use and outside temperatures, car manufacturers can optimize the computer controlled engine management, with such tweaks as transmission shift points, torque curve mondifications, etc. to somewhat conteract the effects of the newer more realistic fuel economy ratings. It is well known that many manufacturers opitimized the "chips" in their vehicles to gain higher EPA economy ratings under the older system with its slower acceleration rates, lower speeds, etc.
So a positive consequence could be that 2008 vehicles could be optimized for 65 to 70mph highway fuel economy instead of 55mph in the older test.

My real point is that the fuel consumption for 2008 vehicles could be lower (i.e. higher mpg) for everyday driving than it would otherwise be if the new method was not adopted.

Whether the 2008 xB has the chip optimized is yet to be seen. I'm sure the shift points are going to be different compared to Camry and tC and the valve timing and duty cycle timings of the fuel injectors may be modified for best fuel economy at say, for example 2800rpm instead of 2400rpm. I understand the gear ratios are the same as the tC's.
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Originally Posted by bkirby
Because the 2008 EPA Fuel Economy ratings involve quicker acceleration and declerations of vehicles including the new highway rating test with speeds up to 80 mph and and also takes into account of air conditioner use and outside temperatures, car manufacturers can optimize the computer controlled engine management, with such tweaks as transmission shift points, torque curve mondifications, etc. to somewhat conteract the effects of the newer more realistic fuel economy ratings. It is well known that many manufacturers opitimized the "chips" in their vehicles to gain higher EPA economy ratings under the older system with its slower acceleration rates, lower speeds, etc.
So a positive consequence could be that 2008 vehicles could be optimized for 65 to 70mph highway fuel economy instead of 55mph in the older test.

My real point is that the fuel consumption for 2008 vehicles could be lower (i.e. higher mpg) for everyday driving than it would otherwise be if the new method was not adopted.

Whether the 2008 xB has the chip optimized is yet to be seen. I'm sure the shift points are going to be different compared to Camry and tC and the valve timing and duty cycle timings of the fuel injectors may be modified for fuel economy at say, for example 2800rpm instead of 2400rpm. I understand the gear ratios are the same as the tC's.
We discussed this in the other threads about fuel economy...which is why the Mod was annoyed that tCMike posted yet another thread about it without looking at one of the old threads.
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Originally Posted by Bigfieroman

We discussed this in the other threads about fuel economy...which is why the Mod was annoyed that tCMike posted yet another thread about it without looking at one of the old threads.
I'm looking for comments from the 95% of people who haven't read every single thread on this forum (like the mpg thread last November) No offence but his thread has now become the de facto thread in the last few days for people talking about the xB's mpg and I thank "tcmike" for starting it with a descriptive title and not just a part of another thread. If the administrators wanted to delete the thread they would have already done so. This thread is not a thread about forum etiquette. Enough said.

I welcome any constructive comments on the xB's fuel economy.
Old 04-19-2007 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bkirby
Originally Posted by Bigfieroman

We discussed this in the other threads about fuel economy...which is why the Mod was annoyed that tCMike posted yet another thread about it without looking at one of the old threads.
I'm looking for comments from the 95% of people who haven't read every single thread on this forum (like the mpg thread last November) No offence but his thread has now become the de facto thread in the last few days for people talking about the xB's mpg and I thank "tcmike" for starting it with a descriptive title and not just a part of another thread. If the administrators wanted to delete the thread they would have already done so. This thread is not a thread about forum etiquette. Enough said.

I welcome any constructive comments on the xB's fuel economy.
Umm, there are 3 other threads (all three were started this month) on the FIRST page of this forum that are explicitly about fuel mileage, (Anyone have a clue when mileage is going to be released?, NEW XB LETS GUESS THE MPG [in it's 3rd page], and Gear Ratios can forsee xB2 gas mileage?), in addition to the other threads where it was discussed off-topic.

Also, how has this thread become the main mileage thread? Including your post and the original topic post, there are only 4 on-topic posts in this thread, none of which have revealed any new information.

If the mods wanted this to become the new mileage thread, I doubt they would have mocked its creator and allowed off-topic banter to continue until you came in. Lose the condescending attitude, your ____ stinks too.
Old 04-20-2007 | 03:23 AM
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What can I say?

Anyway is Edmunds.com publishing the full specs first?
Old 04-20-2007 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bkirby
What can I say?

Anyway is Edmunds.com publishing the full specs first?
I had heard that they would be posted yesterday (the 19th), but I didn't see anything. According to one of the employees at the backstage events, the mileage will be announced on the 25th. This seems to coincide with the the new scion.com going up on the 26th.
Old 04-21-2007 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by L4rry_B1rd
I wish this site had the Windows Vista thing when someone wants to create a thread...

1) Are you sure you want to post this?

2) Have you searched for this already?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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