Wtf I just called up and said the same thing that all of you guys said it says synthetic right on the ____in cap jeeeezzzzzzz he's like you have to ask for synthetic jeez I guess I will next time

 

Well, if you do look in the manual for the oil type, it does recommend 0W-20 for all use over 5W-20. So, since 0W-20 is impossible via conventional oil, our xB does recommend synthetic primarily.

 

No wonder my dealer will give new tires for life if you have all your service done there. Over charge for service and give cheap tires in exchange!!!!

 

If anyone needs the torque spec for their drain plug they shouldn't be touching it.

 

I won't be touching it; I will be having my local mechanic do my service, and I just want to make sure he has the correct info. After all the dealer horror stories, I feel safer being able to share info like this with my mechanic BEFORE he does the service. I know a lot of people cut corners and don't even use a torque wrench.

 

I see you deleted the "I'm older than you" cliche.

There's just no need to bust out the torque wrench on the drain plug...it's not like you're torquing a rod bolt. I know plenty of people who are not competent enough to even use a torque wrench properly...:ough:: Wal-Mart lube techs :ough:: Many times, the fact that they use a torque wrench is inconsequential.

I'm merely trying to make the point that most of the people who feel compelled to use a torque wrench on every bolt do not know what they are doing, and are not qualified to work on their/your car.

 

The actual cliche was "I was doing oil changes before you were born" and I meant it with good humor, but when I read it I felt like it appeared bitter. Since that was not my intent at all, yeah I removed it. Sometimes my sarcastic sense of humor gets the better of me, so I tried to catch it before it was too late and I was misunderstood.

I never used a torque wrench 25 years ago, but this is my first new car, and I guess I might be a little overprotective.

 

It's cool, I got a little laugh from it

I understand about being overprotective. I don't trust anyone with my S10 (I don't own an xB yet). It was my baby since new in '03. Now I'm gonna sell it after I've put $15k in customizing it. Oh well...gotta get ready for the future kids.

 

Have you guys heard this one yet?

Concrete dust accumulates in the oil over time this dust is very fine and passes right throgh the oil filter, it interacts with the surface of the bearings and makes them very polished so much so that they cannot retain oil any longer under stress. Something to do with the removal of the cross-hatching on the surface of the bearings.

I ran into a vietnamese mechanic that told me that if you changed your oil every 2000 miles your car would last for 20 or more years. He said the rock dust accumulates in the oil and is not removed by the air filter either, it get stuck in the oil and builds up over time.

I change my oil at 2 or 3k miles, I also change my air filter much sooner than later so as to not let the larger particles work their way through my filter. Or to let the trapped particles get released one day when I floor it.

Of course this dust is unavoidable and is present in all cars that travel concrete roads. I have seen studies that say you shouldn't live withing one l mile of major freeways due to the sub-micron dusts.

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