View Poll Results: Have you had windshield damage yet?
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Have you had windshield damage yet?
#22
xB windshields love rocks, and lose the battle every time. I recommend everybody look into lowering your comprehensive insurance deductible to $100. I have State Farm (they don't offer separate windshield insurance), and the premium increase to go from $500 comp. deductible down to $100 was only $20 more every 6 months. This means that I break even if it costs $400 to replace a windshield, and I do it once in the next 7-1/2 years. Odds are pretty good that I'm going to come out ahead on this one, plus I'll only have to come up with $100 when it does happen.
#23
I dont have any cracks yet, but I hear the crackling as Im driving. I guessing its about to crack..I have only 7500 miles on the car..The dealer offered windshield insurance at the time of the purchase. I bought it thanks to this forum..Although the dealer should pay for the windshield anyway, its good to have backup..
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my windshield survived a rock chip just fine but then last week I developed a crack on the opposite side of the windshield...to me the crack looks to be a stress crack as there is no evidence of a chip.
#27
Wouldn't this be something to report individually to the NTSB? They're the ones who decide recalls, aren't they? No manufacturer is ever going to pony up for fixing anything until they're forced to. Report. Report. Report.
Their website is a good place to look for "secret" recalls too. For some reason, recalls are allowed which don't require the mfg to contact the owners but if an owner has related problems, brings in the car, and proves the recall exists, the problem gets free repair.
Their website is a good place to look for "secret" recalls too. For some reason, recalls are allowed which don't require the mfg to contact the owners but if an owner has related problems, brings in the car, and proves the recall exists, the problem gets free repair.
#28
I bought the car in Jan and now i have like a 4inch crack that starts from the bottom of the windshield right in the center of the whole windshield, dont know how it happen but its there.
#29
Here's where you should register a complaint about the windshield (or anything else that needs attention). Not NTSB as I first said but NHTSA.
Here are recent complaints about Scions:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm
I see that (23) members here have had windshield issues but they apparently haven't registered the info.
The more events which are reported, the sooner someone will look at this and possibly push the manufacturer to take steps to correct.
Here are recent complaints about Scions:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm
I see that (23) members here have had windshield issues but they apparently haven't registered the info.
The more events which are reported, the sooner someone will look at this and possibly push the manufacturer to take steps to correct.
#32
I don't know what you expect everybody to report. As far as I saw, briefly reading through only 2 people have unexplained windshield problems. Everybody else said they got hit by a rock. I assume those people make up the majority of the 30 (as of the last time I checked) who voted they had their window replaced.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
#34
Originally Posted by TLS317
I don't know what you expect everybody to report. As far as I saw, briefly reading through only 2 people have unexplained windshield problems. Everybody else said they got hit by a rock. I assume those people make up the majority of the 30 (as of the last time I checked) who voted they had their window replaced.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
Complaining does nothing except allow the owners to vent and commiserate with others with like experiences. Then what?
If I were on my third windshield, you can bet that someone with the surname Toyoda would be hearing from me.
#35
I think you're better off going to Toyota than to the NHTSA. I really think that National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration has more important things to deal with than a few windshield cracks. The NHTSA is barely an effective institution anyway,
The xB2 won't even be produced after next year (if you believe a thing Scion says). Why would they waste the time investigating?
Toyota has a much more vested interest, since they are the ones you would be suing, and in theory they don't want to lose you as a customer.
But I still don't think anyone's even going to get a return phone call, unless you pay an actual glass expert to verify that this is a stress crack.
The xB2 won't even be produced after next year (if you believe a thing Scion says). Why would they waste the time investigating?
Toyota has a much more vested interest, since they are the ones you would be suing, and in theory they don't want to lose you as a customer.
But I still don't think anyone's even going to get a return phone call, unless you pay an actual glass expert to verify that this is a stress crack.
#36
Originally Posted by BlackberryPie
Originally Posted by TLS317
I don't know what you expect everybody to report. As far as I saw, briefly reading through only 2 people have unexplained windshield problems. Everybody else said they got hit by a rock. I assume those people make up the majority of the 30 (as of the last time I checked) who voted they had their window replaced.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
What complaint would you like them to make? They're too many rocks on the road? That hardly seems like a design flaw and nothing that the NHTSA should have anything to do with.
BTW I've had the car a year next month. It was in a relatively bad accident (granted it was in the rear) and I still haven't had any problems with chips, breaks, or anything like that.
Complaining does nothing except allow the owners to vent and commiserate with others with like experiences. Then what?
If I were on my third windshield, you can bet that someone with the surname Toyoda would be hearing from me.
I'm not sure I completely understand what uniqdsn meant, but I took it to mean that his windshield was broken by a rock and you still encouraged him to make a complaint. So again my question is, complain about what? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by BlackberryPie
Wouldn't this be something to report individually to the NTSB? They're the ones who decide recalls, aren't they? No manufacturer is ever going to pony up for fixing anything until they're forced to. Report. Report. Report.
Their website is a good place to look for "secret" recalls too. For some reason, recalls are allowed which don't require the mfg to contact the owners but if an owner has related problems, brings in the car, and proves the recall exists, the problem gets free repair.
Their website is a good place to look for "secret" recalls too. For some reason, recalls are allowed which don't require the mfg to contact the owners but if an owner has related problems, brings in the car, and proves the recall exists, the problem gets free repair.
Toyota doesn't have any secret recalls.
A recall is a recall. It is mandated by the government/NHTSA and letters are mailed out to All known oweners.
A service campaign is something that is started and followed through by Toyota without Government/NHTSA mandate. Letters are mailed out to owners of these vehicles by Toyota. Toyota doesn't know where EVERYONE lives.
A TSB is NOT a recall and there is no required action by the dealer. All it does is point out to a dealer that there is a potential reason for a certain compaint to help save the time to having to diagnose the same issue over and over again.
Toyota has never had a Government mandated recall. All recalls they'd had are voluntery. a broken windshield is not something that needs to be recalled. It's not the manufacturers fault that rocks are thrown at the glass.
There is only one thing I know that has caused fractures of the glass on xB's without being hit by rocks. There are placement tabs on the top of the glass so when it's set, it's always in perfect placement. These tabs get locked into position when the glass is set in place with the adhesive and what happens is the glass is forced to flex when the chassis does. this can cause the glass to break but if this is the cause, the break will be at the top of the window, not the bottom.
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Originally Posted by silverx
kinda off topic whats the price of a wind shield for the xb2??
i think mine needs replacing
another rock hit my windshield this time it look like its starting to crack lol
i think mine needs replacing
another rock hit my windshield this time it look like its starting to crack lol
My total was $480.