Originally Posted by xseveredveganx

And has www.thesaurus.com bookmarked.

I could sit here and argue all day on neek's thread, but I'd rather not. :D

Originally Posted by pyroman131

I actually am a thesaurus. I'm an Education major and I'm also a writer on critical theory. I also practice intensive reading (real books. I read more than I watch tv), Psychological studies, philosophy (with respect to philosophical origins such as understanding Beatty's "Replaying of Life's Tape" concept in relation to pre-Cambrian theory in evolution), and other studies.

I write a lot of extensive papers and I've had intensive college-prep schooling all my life, so naturally, my vocabulary is quite excellent, but certainly not unparalleled.

@Neek: I naturally assumed, and also by reading other people's posts, that you cut your stock springs. Perhaps I have been overzealous. Smart move that you didn't cut those, but I still wouldn't recommend you cut any springs at all. I know too many mechanics that would tell you not to do that.

Originally Posted by pyroman131

The point of my sarcasm (and I apologize in advance because in your example, I do not speak as an uneducated pre-teen obsessed with Edward Cullen and refrain from incorrect language in my daily interactions) is to enforce the importance of correctly maintaining your vehicle. Any knowledgeable mechanic will advocate that reducing the size of your springs will devastate your car. One can liken that effect to the utilization of incorrect fuel (i.e. generic equivalents that initialize catastrophic buildup). For the time being, you will receive impressive, rather, desired results, but over time dilapidation will ensue.

The overall interest in Scion is because they're cheap reliable cars. The people attracted to them are not filthy rich; ergo, I am concerned with this person who wishes to devastate their car's performance by INCORRECTLY MODIFYING IT. If you are that concerned with aesthetics and wish to lower your car, then perhaps you should invest in lowering springs rather than cutting your stock springs. To that extent, if I were the instigator, I would deem that spending a number such as $150 is more expensive than spending $0. Honestly, I would rather spend $0 on repairs than $150 or so. I do not feel the need to express this in a mathematical inequality, so I trust you understand my point I advocate rather than resorting to more sarcasm.

The choice on this modification, of course, remains entirely up to the original poster as it is his car; however, I find it important to outline the ramifications of his actions. Insodoing, aesthetic appeal shall be achieved at the cost of performance and reliability in the future.

Being that I am a student, I find it important to abstain from trivial pursuits - for instance, repair bills on detrimental modifications. To each their own.

To that extent, I desire longevity over aesthetics and support the former over the latter earnestly. Ideally the instigator will achieve 10,000 miles with this modification so long as he drives with sincere caution. I desire 75,000 miles or more before I consider changing my shocks or repairing my suspension. As stated earlier, to each their own.

Originally Posted by pyroman131

I actually am a thesaurus. I'm an Education major and I'm also a writer on critical theory. I also practice intensive reading (real books. I read more than I watch tv), Psychological studies, philosophy (with respect to philosophical origins such as understanding Beatty's "Replaying of Life's Tape" concept in relation to pre-Cambrian theory in evolution), and other studies.

I write a lot of extensive papers and I've had intensive college-prep schooling all my life, so naturally, my vocabulary is quite excellent, but certainly not unparalleled.

@Neek: I naturally assumed, and also by reading other people's posts, that you cut your stock springs. Perhaps I have been overzealous. Smart move that you didn't cut those, but I still wouldn't recommend you cut any springs at all. I know too many mechanics that would tell you not to do that.

Originally Posted by TOYZ

THIS SITE IS FOR PEOPLE HOOKED ON SCION NOT PHONICS . ....... POOP!

Originally Posted by pierre_tec

you are so young and sound like my granpa, so boringgg........

Originally Posted by 91DA9

Please, I've helped do the exact same mod on quite a few cars owned by mechanics. Nothing will happen. At worst his shock tower mounts will mushroom, in which case he can cut and weld a new set in. Who cares if his shocks blow, he's wearing a tech shirt in one of the pictures, so I'm sure Neek knows all about the possible consequences. Oh and by the way, you're stock struts will probably blow out anyway. When I installed my DF210's(at 15,000 miles) two of the struts were blown.

Originally Posted by pyroman131

The only person I know of who has had long success with DF210s is CIONIDE. I forget where he wrote it, but supposedly he's at about 30k miles or so with DF210s on it for 95% of the duration.

Originally Posted by ack154

Cut springs? Really? I'm pretty surprised people actually still do that. Did I just warp into a Honda forum?

Originally Posted by pyroman131

I would deem that spending a number such as $150 is more expensive than spending $0.

Originally Posted by Rockztar

no poop sherlock!

Originally Posted by xseveredveganx

I've got Hotchkis springs, 300lbs+ of stereo equipment, and my springs and shocks are right as rain.

Originally Posted by pyroman131

Wow. Really? Are you serious? Really? I love how people pick apart a person's argument and hear or see only what they want to. You are clearly uninformed and I find your statement laughable. Had you read what I wrote from that excerpt from quite some time ago, you would clearly understand the purpose of why I inserted that obvious, mathematical and sarcastic statement.

But from what I can derive from your plain idiocy, your eyes will most likely focus on the underlined word "why" in the former paragraph, as it is the only part of the paragraph graphically displayed in such a way that your attention will automatically be drawn to it; ergo, you'll miss my point completely. So I shall break it down in a format you can understand through a simple points system:

I'm giving you one point (1) for bringing up an argument that was brought up a long time ago and another point (count it, 1 more point) for being special. And special people deserve a special gold star, especially when they convert cliches with astounding censorship! Keep on keeping on you special star! One day you'll be able to use the S H I T word instead of poop! And maybe one day when you're old and gray, you'll be able to have a justified argument!! Congratulations! You just got 2 points and 1 gold star! GOD, YOU'RE SPECIAL!!

How's the ride quality on that? I'm really thinking about going lower on my box, but I want a comfortable ride. Do you notice any rough riding, and if possible, could you let me know what tires you're running?