I am hoping that there are some new headlines soon. I am especially curious to see the driver reviews. Especially gas mileage? I am thinking its going to be pretty poor. Probably like 23-24 mpg

 

Remember that the EPA is finally updating the mileage system so ALL 2008 cars will take a considerable hit, especially small and/or hybrid cars. With that in mind, I would imagine that it will be about 20city/28hwy or so. Something to keep in mind also is the gearing. If Scion goes with the Camry's taller gears instead of the tC's shorter gears, it'll get a little bit better mileage.

 

I would hope they go with the camry gears. I would be very dissapointed if they dropped the gas mileage for a little extra horsepower. Who needs that !

 

They could of just kept the same engine. With the price of gas soaring, and the success of the oirignal box, I'm surprised at them going bigger.

 

With its extra size (and weight) the 1.5L wouldn't have kept up with any of the competition, so a larger engine was needed. With that said, is the 2.4L a better choice than the 1.8L? Who knows. All I know is that it's going to be a fun box (albeit softer one) to drive. Anytime you give a vehicle 55% more power, there is a considerable difference, I just hope they kept the weight down.

 

Weight has been published, 3085 lb for the xB2 w/ auto trans.

 

It went bigger because it's the American way. All our cars get bigger because we keep getting fatter and fatter.

 

Mind if I ask where that came from? I would like the link as it probably has other info that I am unaware of. PM me if you'd like. Thanks.

As for the weight, it's a bit high, but considering the Camry/RAV4/Highlander are all well over 3000lb, I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun to drive.

600 extra pounds to deal with . Too bad, it was fun telling customers that the xB was lighter than a new Mazda MX-5.

Toyota, I expect a 5-star rating out of this thing. Between the new safety features and larger size/added weight, it should excel in one of the only areas the last gen didn't.

 

safety!

 

The first gen xB was plenty safe. It just didn't have all the sideairbag crap. What a waste of money.
The new xB should be about as quick as the 1st gens. with all that extra weight added on.

 

sumo size weight!

 

yeah, it's too bad, it goes against the whole scion name and what you imagined when you heard the word scion...just my $0.02, i bought my box a month ago new, i wondered why there were only a handful on the lot...they were leftover 06 models.didn't even know until i signed the papers!lol.point is i'm glad i got a first and the last of a true "city car".If Honda brings a small box though I'm goin back home...

 

This thread:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=163737

Specifically, my post here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...429108#2429108

Which was taken from the latest brochure.

 

Hopefully this link will help all of you out!

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=168678

 

The 1st xB was plenty safe, but it certainly didn't excel in the area. Side bags are not a waste of money by any means and will be standard in all vehicles before we know it.

In terms of performance, it's getting a 20% bump in wieght, but a 55% increase in power. I love my 1st gen, but it will be nothing in comparison to the new model. Also, keep in mind that the Camry (3200lb+) RAV4 (3300lb+) and the Highlander (3500lb+) all have much better performance times than the 1st gen xB, so the car will perform with respect.

3000lb is not a bad thing by any means, it just won't have the tossable feel that we all loved about the 1st gen model.

 

Boomster and Max, thanks for the links!

 

Guess we will wait and see. It is true that every american car eventually gets bigger and fatter. I guess thats because like BB2NER said everyone in this country seems to be moving the same way.

 

I like think I like the new body style.

But Toyota is really screwing up by going larger, heavier and less efficient.

New xB = Current Element

Just go to Honda and get their spec sheet on the Element, it will tell us all we need to know about the 08 xB

Expect real world sub 20 mpg from the 08.

It is unheard of in automotive history to take a wildly successful model and ruin it so completely. I don't think Honda would ruin the civic line by doubling the size of its engine and building next years model on the Accord frame.

Why not make the xB a 4x4 and totally make Scion like everything else

 

Well, it uses the same engine as the tC so expect similar MPGs.. nuff said

 

I don't know what happened to the MPG "craze". I owned a 1992 Honda Civic CX and consistantly got mid 40's with it and on long trips i got over 50 MPG!!! Now we have "fuel efficient" hybrids costing twice as much and still not achieving 50 MPG. America needs to be marketing/making smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles. And we are certainly capable of winding up our own windows and dealing with a little extra road noise for even more miles per gallon. I'm a little disappointed in the American public for not DEMANDING these things from our automakers. Bigger is not always better, just glance down at our expanding waistlines. Ok, OK, rant over, resume daily grind.