Is going to get someone killed. I'm not condoning pulling out in front of cars, but just having fun at left or right hand turns from stop the car kills your power.

If someone tries to chance it with the darn thing on, they could get killed. Like I said, I'm not defending stupid, but reducing power was a bad implementation. My 2007 Sonata has it and it works great, plus, if you try and go from a red light in the left turn light, it doesn't stall you in traffic.

I've gotten to where I cut mine off in good weather. Sometimes I like to drive aggressive and it'll hang you out to dry.

 

Yeah I hate it too, but it's not just Toyota that does the power reduction thing, I had the same thing on my MINI and our Honda Odyssey. Happened on all the cars in the exact same driveway I used to exit from daycare. Sharp right hand turn out of the driveway on to a busy street so you had to accelerate quicly.

 

Yeah, I mean sometimes you just gotta go and turn, and of course the tires will slip a bit. This thing leaves you with your foot to the floor and your pants down.

 

yea i don't like it. some times i turn the vsc off too.

 

I've started turning it all off when I crank it up, unless there is inclement weather.

 

I use to hate it as well but Ive learned to "control" it. When I pull out into traffic I dont hammer the throttle and if that doesnt help I upshift.

 

Us auto guys are not so lucky ;)

Car squats down and takes a big ol dump in traffic!

 

You guys must not know how to properly drive. I have an automatic and drive aggresively and have absolutely no problems... Dont see what the big deal is....

 

Yepp, thats it, we just need a professional like you to teach us

Sit at a red light, even on dry pavement, in the left turn lane, and punch it trying to beat oncoming traffic. All I get is a loss of power and a blinking traction control light.

The whole issue is, that any wheelspin causes the power to drop out, and sometimes its at the wrong moment.

Or maybe your problem is you do not have enough mods for wheelspin...

 

By no means am I saying Im a profesional, Im jus sayin Iv never had an issue.. Then again I dont try drive my car like its got 300+hp, stock we dont even have 200... As far as my mods I have an intake and performance exhaust, for show, Iv never punched it at a red light cuz the car just wasnt made for that, its a show car not a race car. It wouldve come with turbo or at least more hp if that was the case, be happy with what youve got, a box.. You want a car with more power, buy a car with more power.

 

Hey, you are the one that said we did not know how to drive...

Then you said you like to drive agressive, which is all I'm doing. I dont punch the car from a standstill, but it aint hard to get wheelspin turning, especially when its damp, and the whole point is (which has NOTHING to do with wanting more power or a race car ) their implementation of TC stinks.

I do not think you fully read the conversation and just made an assumption.

 

Get some good tires, problem solved. My BFGoodrich G-Force KDWs stick to the pavement like glue. Only time I can break the tires loose is if I'm turning from an intersection and I purposely punch it real hard. Use a little throttle control. Roll into the throttle while you're turning, get more or less straightned out and then put it to the floor. Without TC, you'd just sit there and spin the inside wheel. When I hit TC, I know I'm doing something wrong, and some backing off the throttle is required.

If you have the manual, get the LSD, turn off TC, and go for it.

 

Agree with that. I'm going to 225/50's for more rubber on the road.

 

I used to be able to break the stock tires loose from a stop at this intersection on my daily commute. With the KDW's, thats not a problem except with the hardest of pedal mashing. :D

 

Its ruff i can't give it more than 1/4 throttle in the first two gears without spinning the tires. And if I punch it going around a corner in third it gives a whole new meaning to drift driving. However, i think ive abused the vsc enough that it no longer trys to reduce power, or mabey the fic prevents the ecu from pulling power, i know the fic overrides the vehicles speed limiter. If you get going real fast and carry the speed through a long sweeping turn the vsc sounds like a slot machine hitting a jack pot.

 

Haha

 

Same here...

Guys, try not hammering down until you start to crank back to straighten the car out.

There's no point being in a huge hurry anyways...people pull out in front of me and go slow ALL the time, so I have no problem doing it as well...Yeah I may get a horn, or a finger, but it's not the end of the world.

 

I've a hill near me with a controlled intersection at the crest. You have to turn either left or right, and for me it's generally left and the light is generally red. Sometimes my left front doesn't slip when I clutch into first, but it frequently does -- never yet had a power drop out (though I really would like to install an LSD, but need a good price !).

I agree that you guys are applying too much accelerator in a situation where it simply doesn't help. If you're driving properly, you're minimizing slip by moderating your throttle -- (slip is lost traction, not maximum traction). If your underlying goal is to hear your tires squeal, that's fine, but it doesn't improve your performance through the intersection.

 

I actually dont think its tire spin as much as body roll when accelerating hard and making a sharp turn. I do not feel any spin or start to spin.

I guess this thread has run its course, Scions TC is the next best thing to sliced bread, and 1% of us just suck at driving...

Let me ask you this:

Is it better, when you really need to go, to have a little wheel spin, or the car to take a dump in the middle of traffic? I'll take the spin. Like I said, the South Koreans implemented it properly.

 

If that question is to me, as I said, I've yet to experience a power drop-out due to wheel spin, however, I've always deliberately minimized wheel spin -- I know darned well all it does is wear tires and stress drivetrain, no help at all in serious manouvering. I'm just guessing that what's triggering the power-drop is not a "little" wheel spin, but a lot -- and that's why it's there, to assist traction recovery. If that's the way you guys drive, guess you just need to keep on disabling the VSC !

Sure, body roll has to exacerbate it, but still -- I've a rear sway bar and lowering springs and it's still easy to spin the inside front from a start on an aggressive corner. However, that little bugger will move out and around quite smartly without a single squeal if I'm just paying attention. Moderating the throttle can work wonders !