James_Bond

Hey guys

Im getting some rubbing on my XB2. Its not REALLY bad, it rubs when I hit a nice bump on the freeway or if I have to many people in the car. From what I can tell its only rubbing the inside plastic molding and not even bad enough to scuff the tire, never the less it bothers me.

I dialed in 1" of camber and that helped but still not 100% rub free

Here is the setup

Tanabe DF's
Stern ST1's 19x8.5 With a 38 MM offset
235/35/19 Nexen's

I like the way it looks and rides, I really would not rather raise it up.

Here are some options Im kicking around.

I can get 2 new front rims at a 45 offset and I'm sure that will fix my rubbing issue 100% but will delete most of the wheels lip and I'm not even sure if it will clear brakes and inner suspension. Can anyone chime in ?

I can shave the back of my current rims but I think a maximum if 3MM's is all I can shave and would rather throw not money away since Im not sure if that would clear it all up.

Roll the fenders a bit? Is there even anything to roll in these fenders? I dont feel much of a lip.

Any other ideas ?

my_cubicle_part2

if it's just the plastic, just heat it up and mold it away from your tires where it rubs

bbscionxb

i have gen one and i rub badly on 19's

James_Bond

Im going to try that tomorow

Does anyone know if a +45 offset on a 8.5" 19 will clear everything else? Im sure if I did this my issue would be over.

roXor_boXor

I know there are plenty of us running 235/35/19 tires on 40 offset with almost no rubbing on TRD's and Sportlines. I have rubbed maybe twice when I hit a bump on a sharp turn and entered a driveway too fast.

45 is the stock offset. I'm not sure the 1" wider rim will clear everything. Have you checked the calculator most of us use?

Are you sure they sent you the right wheels? I thought I had seen some people running a 38 offset. Maybe the ones I saw with 38 offset were not running the DF's?

Good luck working it out.

James_Bond

Thanks for the reply roXor, they are a 38 offset for sure and most others running that offset are actually rubbing when they hit bumps or when taking hard turns also. I drive on the freeway LOTS and our freeways here in CA are CRAP so its just to much rubbing for me.

I used the wheel and tire calcultor and used the TRD 19's as the base. According to the calculator I will have MORE room then the TRD 19's with my rims and a +45 offset so I might try it then.

What do you guys think?

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CIONIDE

iTrader: (1)

TRD wheel specs are 19x8 with +48 offset

Time to play with the calculator/comparer some more.

(You should still clear with no problems.)

coryjames

i had really bad rub i just delt with it so thats what has to happen its just rub without rub your wheels done have the right fit lol

James_Bond

Thanks Cionide, I redid it just in case though

Looks like its still gravy.

Since Ill lose some lip in the front maybe I should just go deeper in the rear

Looks like this might end up being a good thread for people with DF's and 19's

ibnboxin

umm when you compare tires sizes you need to compare stock size vs what you want to go with.

CIONIDE

iTrader: (1)

He's trying to establish if clearance will be an issue, so he is comparing against the optional TRD 19" wheel specs, which we already know will clear with no problems. In a way, he is comparing to stock, just not the stock steelies.

James_Bond

Thanks for clearning that up for ibnboxin

ibnboxin

In a way, he is comparing to stock, just not the stock steelies.


umm no he is comparing a Aftermarket rim to another aftermarket rim. yes you can order them to be put on the car. but they are still aftermarket rim. yes they work. but they are compared to a raised vehicle not a dropped vehicle.

TRD spings drop 1 1/2 inches
tanabe DF drops up to 2 1/2 inches
NF drop is 1 1/2 inches.

now since he has the 2 .5 or so drop to it. umm you need to figure in that part of it. that calculator is not figuring in the drop on the Vehicle. see where i am getting at now on this.

So yeah you cleared nothing up on any of this. i just think farther in advance and think about all options. if you have rubbing issues. chances are you just going to waste money in buy wheels that will give you those. yes rolling the fender or adjusting camber will help. but why not start from ground zreo and see where you can go without issues. not hope and pray that it will work.


front
26.25 in. = 666.7500 mm.

rear
27.5 in. = 698.5000 mm.

with DFS drop
2.5 in. = 63.5000 mm

gives you

front
603.2500 mm

rear
635 mm

now this is max drop with DF's. you do not always get the full drop. but you pretty close to it.

James_Bond

I guess...if you want to get all complicated.

The TRD wheels and DF's (this is what I had on the car before my Sterns) clear with NO rubbing, so I really cant see how using the TRD's as my base for the calculator would not yield the results I want.

Update:

I ordered 2 new front wheels at a +45 offset and I will throw them on thursday or friday and let everyone know how it goes.

ibnboxin

didn't you post you had a rubbing issue on those as well???

never mind those were the sterns you had on at the time

James_Bond

Yea the TRD's were always good with rubbing, I don't think it ever rubbed once (as most others are also not rubbing)

Thanks for your input though ibnboxin

James_Bond

UPDATE:

So I FINALLY got the new front wheels installed. It took forever to get the damn +45 offsets in stock.

I am pleased to say that I have ZERO rubbing now.

Specs in the front 19x8.5 with a 45 Offset on a 235/35/19 and Tanabe DF springs.

No rubbing over bumps at all. I get a tiny tiny bit of rubbing on the INSIDE of the fender liners when Im at full lock to lock but its very minor and is fine with me. One could take out or cut the liners and would have zero rubbing.

turbotim

go with a smaller tire, 235/35 are huge balloons

James_Bond

I don't get it, my issue is solved with no more rubbing why would I want to change tires?

235/35's are huge balloons? any smaller and I would be stretching the tire, Im not into that look at all.

CIONIDE

iTrader: (1)

235/35-19's are what Toyota/Scion specifies for the TRD 19x8 wheels. I say you did the right thing 007 (James_Bond).