Tire / Fender Rubbing
#1
Tire / Fender Rubbing
Still a newb here.
Question about Tire / Fender rubbing:
I was just looking at my xB fender well and was doing some measurements to see the effects of different offsets and wheel/tire sizes and stuff. I also noticed the there is that plastic liner on the interior of the fender well.
I know it really depends on the wheel/tire setup and every xB may be a little different, but for the most part….
When you guys experience the Tire / Fender rubbing, what part of the tire (ie top of sidewall, sidewall bulge, or tread) is actually rubbing the fender. On the fender, do most experience the rubbing only on the plastic liner part. If it's only the plastic liner part that’s rubbing, how do you roll the plastic? I read somewhere about heating the plastic up to reform it. Heating the plastic sounds a little scary to me. I would think I would need something a lot stronger than a hair blow dryer.
For background info…. I plan to have the following wheel/ tire sets:
Set #1:
Wheels 19x8.5 +35
Tires 235/35
on all corners
Set #2 (staggered):
Wheels 19x8.5 +38 front and 19x9.5 +40 rear
Tires 235/35 front and 245/35 rear
Spring drop will be Tanabe NF210 (1.0" Front, 1.7" rear)
Thanks
Question about Tire / Fender rubbing:
I was just looking at my xB fender well and was doing some measurements to see the effects of different offsets and wheel/tire sizes and stuff. I also noticed the there is that plastic liner on the interior of the fender well.
I know it really depends on the wheel/tire setup and every xB may be a little different, but for the most part….
When you guys experience the Tire / Fender rubbing, what part of the tire (ie top of sidewall, sidewall bulge, or tread) is actually rubbing the fender. On the fender, do most experience the rubbing only on the plastic liner part. If it's only the plastic liner part that’s rubbing, how do you roll the plastic? I read somewhere about heating the plastic up to reform it. Heating the plastic sounds a little scary to me. I would think I would need something a lot stronger than a hair blow dryer.
For background info…. I plan to have the following wheel/ tire sets:
Set #1:
Wheels 19x8.5 +35
Tires 235/35
on all corners
Set #2 (staggered):
Wheels 19x8.5 +38 front and 19x9.5 +40 rear
Tires 235/35 front and 245/35 rear
Spring drop will be Tanabe NF210 (1.0" Front, 1.7" rear)
Thanks
#2
The common rubbing point on +35 offset wheels is at the top outer edges of the front tires, where they roll over from the sidewall to the tread. Depending on how sharp this transition is (some tires are more squared off here, while others are a little more rounded off) may determine whether a tire rubs or not. Over bumps in the road, this edge of the tire can rub up against the plastic fender liner just inside the fender lip.
If you decide not to go staggered, so that you can rotate, why not use the 19x8.5 +38 wheels from the Set #2 fronts at all 4 corners. That 3mm of offset difference will reduce the possibility of any rubbing.
What wheels are you looking at for each of your two choices?
If you decide not to go staggered, so that you can rotate, why not use the 19x8.5 +38 wheels from the Set #2 fronts at all 4 corners. That 3mm of offset difference will reduce the possibility of any rubbing.
What wheels are you looking at for each of your two choices?
#3
I have not checked exactly what is rubbing on my front tires... But it's safe to say it's the plastic lining... I'll take a closer look when I get home. I have not heard about heating the plastic lining and re-forming it...but rolling the fender can solve the issue. My plan is if it's the plastic lining that's rubing, I'll leave it alone. I'll roll the fender if it's the fender that's rubbing...
#4
Well... I jacked my car up and look under the front fender well... I can't find where it's rubbing... whatever it is rubbing on, it may be very minor... I will keep checking periodically and see if I can figure it out... for now, I'll leave it alone and stay away from dips...
#5
Originally Posted by CIONIDE
What wheels are you looking at for each of your two choices?
Set #1:
MRR HR2
19"x8.5 +35 offset
Falken FK-452 235/35
Set #2 (Staggered):
Ace Trend
19"x8.5 +38 offset (fronts) Falken FK-452 235/35
19"x9.5 +40 offset (rears) Falken FK-452 245/35
I was extremely fortunate to have found those Ace Trend wheels at a very good price. (No, they are not stolen) As I understand, the wheels where never mounted on a car and only used for tire/wheel promotions only.
As you can tell... I favor the 5 spoke style wheels...... easy to clean and maintain.
I'm just trying to anticipate any rubbing issues that I may encounter and how I can fix the problem if it occurs. It will be a couple more weeks before I get the sets togther.... can't wait!
~Thanks
#6
Originally Posted by c_dub
Well... I jacked my car up and look under the front fender well... I can't find where it's rubbing... whatever it is rubbing on, it may be very minor... I will keep checking periodically and see if I can figure it out... for now, I'll leave it alone and stay away from dips...
It sounds like the rubbing issue is very minor.
#7
get the MRR HR2 but staggered set up. Here is why:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
#8
Originally Posted by c_dub
get the MRR HR2 but staggered set up. Here is why:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
#9
Originally Posted by BBN-Boys
Originally Posted by c_dub
get the MRR HR2 but staggered set up. Here is why:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
#10
Originally Posted by c_dub
Originally Posted by BBN-Boys
Originally Posted by c_dub
get the MRR HR2 but staggered set up. Here is why:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
#11
The HHR MR2 thread that c_dub put up the link for is one of the places that references 19x8.5 +35 front wheels with 235/35-19 tires and
These were put on an xB at Scion of Bellevue, in Washington State. It is on a TRD drop, which is the same 1" as NF210's. I am inclined to believe that a Scion dealership would not sell a vehicle with rubbing issues, so hopefully you will be OK with these same wheels and tire size BBN-Boys.
Originally Posted by thefoth
NO RUBBING!!!
#12
Originally Posted by BBN-Boys
Originally Posted by c_dub
Originally Posted by BBN-Boys
Originally Posted by c_dub
get the MRR HR2 but staggered set up. Here is why:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179241
I love that "concave look"
#13
Originally Posted by CIONIDE
The HHR MR2 thread that c_dub put up the link for is one of the places that references 19x8.5 +35 front wheels with 235/35-19 tires and
These were put on an xB at Scion of Bellevue, in Washington State. It is on a TRD drop, which is the same 1" as NF210's. I am inclined to believe that a Scion dealership would not sell a vehicle with rubbing issues, so hopefully you will be OK with these same wheels and tire size BBN-Boys.
Originally Posted by thefoth
NO RUBBING!!!
If not, bring out the BIG Hammer. Just kidding....
#15
Originally Posted by CIONIDE
Actually another really easy solution is to run 225/35 tires on the MR2 wheels. They'd be a little stretched, but who cares if it prevents rubbing.
I haven't installed the Tanabe NF210 springs yet so I will not know if I'll have any rubbing issues yet. O'yeah... I still need to transfer the TPMS sensors on these new wheels too.
#16
The worst case scenario is that they rub slightly once in while when hitting dips or bumps too fast. If it happens and it bothers you, you can always step down to the 225/35's when you're ready for your next set of tires.
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