The rebirth of Supra
#41
Well you all must think this way, You like it, Buy it, Wait a little while and I can guarantee that it will be the the 350Z and it will have ANYTHING You could imagine for it! Play with different choices from all the makers and get a good mechanic and Im sure you could make it a beast! Allthough I still think its ugly and a copy off of Benz crossed with a mustang! LMAO!
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Originally Posted by PitBox
Originally Posted by hotbox05
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They're stupid to run a mechanical fan , prone to fail and losing hp in the process.
They're stupid to run a mechanical fan , prone to fail and losing hp in the process.
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#43
Well the owner Saad is a high believer of mechanical fan and it hasnt failed on him yet so no reason to doubt it, But to each his own. In our 300zx with an LS1 we have electrical fans and its worked so depending on the car and the owner each to his own.
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an ls1 in a 300zx? hmmm .......... as in a 90-96 style? hmmm...... i'd say maybe so in an ol 240z or 260z or 280z , hmm any pics? i know this is thread jacking but oh well.
#46
Hey you guys can whine about it all you want. I'll take a new Supra with a V8 any day. It will be at least as fast as the stock 2jzgte, and will be more fuel efficient.
And hey, if you want a turbo, I am sure that beast will get a company or two (or 50) to make some turbo kits for it that will knock the socks off any factory set up. The Supra name has a legendary following, and as soon as one comes out on the market, every company will be making modifications for it.
The 2jzgte motor is a legend, but times change.
And hey, if you want a turbo, I am sure that beast will get a company or two (or 50) to make some turbo kits for it that will knock the socks off any factory set up. The Supra name has a legendary following, and as soon as one comes out on the market, every company will be making modifications for it.
The 2jzgte motor is a legend, but times change.
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that link icon posted is a hideous car. that and it's pretty much a supercar. . toyota just needs to make an affordable mid line sports car to combat , corvette , mustangs , as well as boxters. it doesnt take a 100k car to do that but toyota wants to beat the competition not contend with it. leaving alot of consumers screwed .
#50
Being a MKIV supra owner, I of course have been doing ALOT of research on the new supra coming out or should I say supposedly coming out. From what I have heard, its going to be a v8 NA, badged as a lexus and close to 80K.
Someone above also asked what the factory power of the TT was. Its rated for 320hp. The NA version was 220hp. The MKIV supras are very heavy. We scaled it at the track and it was 3600lbs with driver. That is a pretty heavy car. But the potential of the 2jz motor is just crazy. The stock lower ends on these cars can handle well up to 1000hp. It has been done numerous times. They should just put the 2jz back into the supra when the release it. Its a perfect platform and very buildable. They would sell a crap load of them. Just look at all the IS300's you see... Its basically a 4dr NA supra....
Someone above also asked what the factory power of the TT was. Its rated for 320hp. The NA version was 220hp. The MKIV supras are very heavy. We scaled it at the track and it was 3600lbs with driver. That is a pretty heavy car. But the potential of the 2jz motor is just crazy. The stock lower ends on these cars can handle well up to 1000hp. It has been done numerous times. They should just put the 2jz back into the supra when the release it. Its a perfect platform and very buildable. They would sell a crap load of them. Just look at all the IS300's you see... Its basically a 4dr NA supra....
#51
Being a old school MK3 owner and lover of the mk4 i think that a V8 in a "japanese muscle car" Is a bad idea keep the japnase ways and do a inline 6 or V6 and go with twin turbo or single. But dont ruin a good old car with the new looks. I mean look at the charger ruined. The only car that made a good comeback was the GTO and that is because they cared what people thought.
#53
Two doors. Sport oriented, but not hard core sport. Four wheel disc brakes. INLINE 6. EVERY Supra has been an I-6 since they were called Celica Supras. Anything else is just a new car with an old name.
We'll never see another one.
FWIW, all the prognostication about a V-8 is misguided. They've been testing a V-10 for some years now, and IF they decide to release it, it will likely be stupid expensive with a Lexus badge. I've been told producing this car is very UNlikely because Toyota has gone green, AND they really don't want another MkIV Supra that everyone loves years after they were a complete sales disaster.
They never sold the turbos for less than $39,600, and in '95, when the yen went bad against the dollar, they were $54k. Many sat on showroom floors for well over a year before they were sold. I consider myself phenomenally lucky to have made the sacrifice and bought a hardtop (a TRUE sports GT) 6 speed in '94. The cars were misunderstood, sold very poorly, and didn't catch on until it was far too late for Toyco USA.
Don't hold your breath on a "new" Supra. It will not be anything like the cars of the past.
We'll never see another one.
FWIW, all the prognostication about a V-8 is misguided. They've been testing a V-10 for some years now, and IF they decide to release it, it will likely be stupid expensive with a Lexus badge. I've been told producing this car is very UNlikely because Toyota has gone green, AND they really don't want another MkIV Supra that everyone loves years after they were a complete sales disaster.
They never sold the turbos for less than $39,600, and in '95, when the yen went bad against the dollar, they were $54k. Many sat on showroom floors for well over a year before they were sold. I consider myself phenomenally lucky to have made the sacrifice and bought a hardtop (a TRUE sports GT) 6 speed in '94. The cars were misunderstood, sold very poorly, and didn't catch on until it was far too late for Toyco USA.
Don't hold your breath on a "new" Supra. It will not be anything like the cars of the past.
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the Mark IV has always been my dream car. IMO, body styling was just so very sweet. New potential-supra pics = ugly.
IF/WHEN I can afford something in that price range, i'm sure it'll be a '98 Mark IV. I doubt I could be happy with something else Toyota happened to call a Supra.....
IF/WHEN I can afford something in that price range, i'm sure it'll be a '98 Mark IV. I doubt I could be happy with something else Toyota happened to call a Supra.....
#59
we have to get use to the fact, that us Americans were slow to appreciate the japanese market when it was great. gone are the days where all the major japanese motor companies came out with twin turbo V6's. 300zx, supra, 3000gt. All we can do now is watch a bunch of turbo 4 bangers roll around, like the SRT-4, wrx, evo's, which arent bad at all, but nothing near twin turbo V6's that are proven to be beasts in their rightly form. Get use to it people, yes it breaks my heart still.
#60
Originally Posted by lo_bux_racer
Two doors. Sport oriented, but not hard core sport. Four wheel disc brakes. INLINE 6. EVERY Supra has been an I-6 since they were called Celica Supras. Anything else is just a new car with an old name.
We'll never see another one.
FWIW, all the prognostication about a V-8 is misguided. They've been testing a V-10 for some years now, and IF they decide to release it, it will likely be stupid expensive with a Lexus badge. I've been told producing this car is very UNlikely because Toyota has gone green, AND they really don't want another MkIV Supra that everyone loves years after they were a complete sales disaster.
They never sold the turbos for less than $39,600, and in '95, when the yen went bad against the dollar, they were $54k. Many sat on showroom floors for well over a year before they were sold. I consider myself phenomenally lucky to have made the sacrifice and bought a hardtop (a TRUE sports GT) 6 speed in '94. The cars were misunderstood, sold very poorly, and didn't catch on until it was far too late for Toyco USA.
Don't hold your breath on a "new" Supra. It will not be anything like the cars of the past.
We'll never see another one.
FWIW, all the prognostication about a V-8 is misguided. They've been testing a V-10 for some years now, and IF they decide to release it, it will likely be stupid expensive with a Lexus badge. I've been told producing this car is very UNlikely because Toyota has gone green, AND they really don't want another MkIV Supra that everyone loves years after they were a complete sales disaster.
They never sold the turbos for less than $39,600, and in '95, when the yen went bad against the dollar, they were $54k. Many sat on showroom floors for well over a year before they were sold. I consider myself phenomenally lucky to have made the sacrifice and bought a hardtop (a TRUE sports GT) 6 speed in '94. The cars were misunderstood, sold very poorly, and didn't catch on until it was far too late for Toyco USA.
Don't hold your breath on a "new" Supra. It will not be anything like the cars of the past.
And on another note, that $80,000 car talk is probably the lexus lf-a concept. that's the car that toyota is goin crazy about.. with the possibility of a v10/v8 configuration, ridiculous top speed, and supercar status, but not to be mistaken as the "next" supra.
And on another note (wat the heck haha), did they just say that this concept would compete with the z4 and s2000? that's like a no-no. if supra is supposed to follow where it left off, it should compete with the 350z. we already have the new IS to compete with the g35, so that is somewhat taken care of.[/b]